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		<title>By: Austin Jaffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Cunningham,

I am a bit confused about your note, although I certainly appreciate your interest.

One reading of your comment is that you appear to claim that observations about the national real estate market are not very useful because you work in a local market.  I believe the idea is that there is benefit to reviewing and applying the national studies to local environments with the recognition that the fixity of location in real estate markets requires a different specific analysis of each locale.  However, for some questions, the correlation between national and local results is very high.  Perhaps this is true, especially once lags are taken into account, for most questions in real estate.  Sometimes national phenomena do not apply locally; there can be no doubt that this is also sometimes correct.

On another level, the reason why we have more studies, observations, findings, reports, etc. of the mythical &quot;national market&quot; is because there is a large audience interested in the findings so as to justify the costs of doing the analysis.  Stated differently, it is too expensive to do an extensive analysis say, for Benton, PA.  Careful studies require many things and players in local markets would benefit from extensive local studies but they are often just too expensive.  Thus, local, quality research is often not available.  The reality is that economic analysis is costly to complete and so we observe more nationally than regionally, more regionally than locally, and more locally than property-by-property.

I agree that it would be nice to know many more things about local markets.  My comments about constitute an explanation as to why we do not have the information you seek.

AJJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cunningham,</p>
<p>I am a bit confused about your note, although I certainly appreciate your interest.</p>
<p>One reading of your comment is that you appear to claim that observations about the national real estate market are not very useful because you work in a local market.  I believe the idea is that there is benefit to reviewing and applying the national studies to local environments with the recognition that the fixity of location in real estate markets requires a different specific analysis of each locale.  However, for some questions, the correlation between national and local results is very high.  Perhaps this is true, especially once lags are taken into account, for most questions in real estate.  Sometimes national phenomena do not apply locally; there can be no doubt that this is also sometimes correct.</p>
<p>On another level, the reason why we have more studies, observations, findings, reports, etc. of the mythical &#8220;national market&#8221; is because there is a large audience interested in the findings so as to justify the costs of doing the analysis.  Stated differently, it is too expensive to do an extensive analysis say, for Benton, PA.  Careful studies require many things and players in local markets would benefit from extensive local studies but they are often just too expensive.  Thus, local, quality research is often not available.  The reality is that economic analysis is costly to complete and so we observe more nationally than regionally, more regionally than locally, and more locally than property-by-property.</p>
<p>I agree that it would be nice to know many more things about local markets.  My comments about constitute an explanation as to why we do not have the information you seek.</p>
<p>AJJ</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Jaffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Thanks for your note.  You probably learned more in Econ 101 than I did! :)

The determination of rents is complicated by numerous factors.  Rental space is a substitute for homeownership so when potential homeowners are hesitant, demand for rental space could increase.  However, in the current case, it is more likely that increases in supply with foreclosures, a reduced number of transactions so more houses are on the rental market, uncertainty about taking a long position in the housing market, etc., all move in the opoosite direction.  It is impossible to predict whether a price such as rent would increase or decrease when there are both supply and demand forces at work.  In this case, it seems reasonable to expect rents to fall with the large increases in supply of housing and the slowdown of real estate markets.  In addition, there is evidence in some markets of rents falling.  This type of reasoning above is why I suggested rents are headed downward.  AJJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Thanks for your note.  You probably learned more in Econ 101 than I did! <img src='http://www.parjustlisted.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The determination of rents is complicated by numerous factors.  Rental space is a substitute for homeownership so when potential homeowners are hesitant, demand for rental space could increase.  However, in the current case, it is more likely that increases in supply with foreclosures, a reduced number of transactions so more houses are on the rental market, uncertainty about taking a long position in the housing market, etc., all move in the opoosite direction.  It is impossible to predict whether a price such as rent would increase or decrease when there are both supply and demand forces at work.  In this case, it seems reasonable to expect rents to fall with the large increases in supply of housing and the slowdown of real estate markets.  In addition, there is evidence in some markets of rents falling.  This type of reasoning above is why I suggested rents are headed downward.  AJJ</p>
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		<dc:creator>PAR Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To print the article, there should be a link above the comments. The print version of this article is located at: <a href="http://www.parjustlisted.com/archives/3491/print/" rel="nofollow">http://www.parjustlisted.com/archives/3491/print/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry R. McCarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry R. McCarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! The information was very helpful at my recent listing appointment.
I enjoy hearing from Dr. Jaffe at the PAR meetings. He is usually right on; however, sometimes we don&#039;t line the forecasts.

Ist there way to print just the article information like RIS with a print link only for the information we would like to capture.

Harry@HarryMcCarty.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! The information was very helpful at my recent listing appointment.<br />
I enjoy hearing from Dr. Jaffe at the PAR meetings. He is usually right on; however, sometimes we don&#8217;t line the forecasts.</p>
<p>Ist there way to print just the article information like RIS with a print link only for the information we would like to capture.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:Harry@HarryMcCarty.com">Harry@HarryMcCarty.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marvin A. Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin A. Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, I&#039;m in our business since 1948 and still at it. I believe you are pretty much correct in stating the facts. Although we filled our pockets with commissions during this last cycle it really was LaLa land because our government several years ago told the banks to lend money to people who could&#039;nt afford it and so legal, intellectual scams such as ARM&#039;s, hedge funds, derivatives, swaps and mortgage backed securities came into play all of which resulted into todays problems which are very very real.  Simply put, we were overpriced, ovespent and over financed. However, people still have to eat, sleep and play so stick it out it will get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I&#8217;m in our business since 1948 and still at it. I believe you are pretty much correct in stating the facts. Although we filled our pockets with commissions during this last cycle it really was LaLa land because our government several years ago told the banks to lend money to people who could&#8217;nt afford it and so legal, intellectual scams such as ARM&#8217;s, hedge funds, derivatives, swaps and mortgage backed securities came into play all of which resulted into todays problems which are very very real.  Simply put, we were overpriced, ovespent and over financed. However, people still have to eat, sleep and play so stick it out it will get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip J. Cunningham Sr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip J. Cunningham Sr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Jaffe I understand you are only stating fact but don&#039;t you agree that these stats are national rather then local. Can you give us some fact that reflect areas in PA since this is where we apply our profession. I for one find it more useful to know fact and figures about my market area, so that I may compare to national stats. Would you not agree that stats on Philadelphia,PA are not as important to buyers in Benton,PA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jaffe I understand you are only stating fact but don&#8217;t you agree that these stats are national rather then local. Can you give us some fact that reflect areas in PA since this is where we apply our profession. I for one find it more useful to know fact and figures about my market area, so that I may compare to national stats. Would you not agree that stats on Philadelphia,PA are not as important to buyers in Benton,PA</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McLane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, although certainly not very cheerful.  I am curious about your Item #14 - Rents are falling.

With many current owners losing their homes, or walking away from them, shouldn&#039;t the increased supply of &quot;those looking for a place to live&quot;, i.e., renters, keep the demand, and therefore the price, of rent high?

Maybe I should have paid more attention in my Econ 101 class at PSU - don&#039;t worry, Dr. Jaffe, if YOU had been the Professor, I would have stayed wide awake and taken better notes, but I was there as a student before you started.  (And those sorts of lines of praise and admiration, a/k/a &quot;blarney&quot; didn&#039;t work for me back in 1973, either!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, although certainly not very cheerful.  I am curious about your Item #14 &#8211; Rents are falling.</p>
<p>With many current owners losing their homes, or walking away from them, shouldn&#8217;t the increased supply of &#8220;those looking for a place to live&#8221;, i.e., renters, keep the demand, and therefore the price, of rent high?</p>
<p>Maybe I should have paid more attention in my Econ 101 class at PSU &#8211; don&#8217;t worry, Dr. Jaffe, if YOU had been the Professor, I would have stayed wide awake and taken better notes, but I was there as a student before you started.  (And those sorts of lines of praise and admiration, a/k/a &#8220;blarney&#8221; didn&#8217;t work for me back in 1973, either!)</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Jaffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connie,  I believe there is humor throughout this piece.  The Wizard of Oz motif is an attempt to indicate that the current market is unreal.  More importantly, I tried to report &quot;facts&quot; rather than opinions in each of the observations.  Many are reported from other legitimate sources.  There are no forecasts here ...  Sorry if you did not like this piece.  Austin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connie,  I believe there is humor throughout this piece.  The Wizard of Oz motif is an attempt to indicate that the current market is unreal.  More importantly, I tried to report &#8220;facts&#8221; rather than opinions in each of the observations.  Many are reported from other legitimate sources.  There are no forecasts here &#8230;  Sorry if you did not like this piece.  Austin</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Gravina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie Gravina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t your mother ever tell you, &quot;If you can&#039;t say something nice, don&#039;t say anything at all&quot;.
We, who are still in the trenches, face these realities every day.  It would have been much better to put a little humor with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t your mother ever tell you, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t say something nice, don&#8217;t say anything at all&#8221;.<br />
We, who are still in the trenches, face these realities every day.  It would have been much better to put a little humor with it.</p>
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